IDP vs. Offensive Trade Values
Chris Robin https://twitter.com/DetroitBeastie
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Let’s get into IDP (individual defensive player) trade values in comparison to the offensive skill positions. I have seen a slew of questions across all social media platforms. “In a dynasty start up with IDP what’s a good round to start drafting IDP?” Or trade questions like this, “I was sent an offer to trade away Bobby Wagner (SEA LB) for my RB2 or 3, what do I do?” Let me help you!
As you can see in the graphic above, this is my top-20 IDP for dynasty formats headed into the 2020 season. With all the mock drafts going on and rookie drafts which are already completed, when and where do I start grabbing defensive players?“ It’s a legitimate question which I plan on answering in full below!
In comparison to the IDP top-20 above is my personal super-flex top-20. You don’t have to be an IDP fan to notice the stark difference in lists. Patrick Mahomes, Christian McCaffery and Lamar Jackson are all NFL super-stars. So the point of this article is to describe where we should make our first IDP selection and what to expect with trading. It always seems to be confusing. So much so it’s turning people away from IDP! We can’t have that!
I’ve long said in the right scoring format our defensive players can score just like our offensive players. I don’t like talking and/or writing about topics I don’t personally know about. Would make no sense for me to tell your story and vice-versa. As recent as last season I was involved in a full blown IDP dynasty start up. I was told the scoring format would be equal across the board. Meaning, you could build a championship defense just as well as an electric offense.
As you can see above this is the scoring format for my IDP league. Let’s discuss the differences and similarities! The first thing that should jump out to you is how fantasy friendly the IDP’s are to your team. Mind you this is custom setting and a custom format for my league. Nonetheless still close to a default scoring system. A sack is 6 points. Same a rushing TD for a RB or a receiving TD for a WR. A passing TD for your QB is 6 points pretty standard but on the IDP side an interception is 5.5 points. Almost a wash. One of the more important statistics for our starting RB’s is total yards right? Here you can see that 1 rushing yard equals 0.25 points. On the defensive side a solo tackle is 3.25 points. Hopefully I haven’t lost you! Lets talk about what I just mentioned step by step!
In the right scoring format, such as this, you can see that a stud RB can accumulate points at the same clip as a stud LB. TD’s, sacks, interceptions, receptions and assisted tackles are all basically the same in terms of points. That’s an important factor when drafting your team. So at what point do we start drafting defensive players? As we all know not all players are created equal. Why is that? Why are the top-ranked linebackers not being drafted among the top-ranked running backs? It’s quite simple. Guaranteed workload and opportunity!
Anyone can sit down pre-draft and/or Sunday morning and know what to expect from a first round talent and consensus #1 overall pick like Christian McCaffrery. In 2019 CMC averaged 17.9 rushing attempts a game, 7.3 receptions a game for an overall average of 60.8 rushing yards a game and 52.6 receiving yards a game. 60.8 x .25 = 15.2. 52.6 x .25 = 13.15. 15.2 + 13.15 = 28.35. So before even stepping on the field you could pencil CMC in for 28.35 points per game. As I’m sure you’ve noticed I didn’t factor TD’s into the equation. If you didn’t know, projecting TD’s is the hardest and most violate statistic there is.
Lets do the same breakdown but with a stand-out stud and consensus first overall IDP, Indianapolis Colts LB Darius Leonard! Leonard had 121 total tackles in 2019, 71 solo and 50 assisted, 5 sacks and 5 INT‘s. Meaning Leonard made on average 10.08 tackles a game. So we’re looking at about 24.48 fantasy points per game. 71 solo tackles x 3.25 = 230.75. 50 assisted tackles x 1.75 = 87.5. 230.75 + 87.5 = 318.25/13 (total games played) = 24.48. Much like TD statistics for offensive players turnovers and sacks are hard to judge.
For the sake of this comparison you have CAR RB Christian McCaffrery at around 28 fantasy points a game while IND LB Darius Leonard comes in around 24 fantasy points per game. What does that tell us? Numbers aside, it tells me that you can personally build a championship defense on your roster just as easily as stacking offensive talent! Personally I would draft an IDP like Leonard, Nick Bosa or Roquon Smith as early as the 3rd or 4th round. Maybe I’m partial to IDP but drafting Leonard in the 3rd makes sense given the scoring format. Below is a photo of my personal IDP roster. Earlier I mentioned being open and honest and only speaking on topics that I know. I can’t tell your story! I don’t know it that well! So looking at my roster you can clearly see I have a few heavyweight defensive players.
When it comes to playing with a full compliment of defensive players, I only have a few rules:
1. Collect linebackers!
In most IDP scoring formats tackles are the name of the game. Linebackers accumulate tackles, sacks and turnovers. They make your IDP roster go-round! I’ve said it several times but LB’s are the RB’s of your defensive roster. When drafting fantasy players build entire stables of running backs. Handcuffs, rookies and safe veterans. You should do the same with your linebacking core. Build a stable of LB’s that can be interchangeable, impressive and pack a punch!
2. Don’t fade defensive backs!
In some IDP leagues cornerbacks and safeties are not separate positions. Just a general DB roster spot. If that’s your case then I wouldn’t even consider CB’s! Roster and start as many top-notch safeties as you can. For example, Jamal Adams, Landon Collins and Budda Baker. As stated above tackles are the point getters for you team! What better way to accumulate points then having a collection of ball hawking active safeties? If your league is like mine CB’s and S are two separate positions. If you look at any IDP ranking list you have to scroll and scroll until you get to the highest ranking cornerback. If a CB is really good at what he does the opposing QB avoids him. Meaning a stud CB is a better real life player then a fantasy player.
3. Don’t overlook the importance of a good defensive lineman!
D-line and the position as a whole has been very scarce the last few years. Until recently, 2019, it’s been a very tough position to dial into. In the more advanced IDP settings defensive end and defensive tackle are separate slots on your rosters. If your DL spot encompasses BOTH DE and DT then have no fear! Plenty of options there! Like the Bosa brothers or Watt brothers. If your league is set up to split the defensive line then your playing with the big dogs! Meaning looking week to week for a start-able defensive tackle can be a long and arduous process!
I never want to lie and mislead any of you. So I’d be remiss if I didn’t discuss trade values and the art of trading in an IDP league. What to expect and what to do! This just in! I have no ground breaking advice. Nothing that’s going to knock off your socks! Only years of personal experience. Which, some would say is the best option. I’ve been sent several messages and emails all in relation to trades in IDP leagues. Much like anything we do in life it helps to be informed! More importantly, know the scoring format in your league. Do your research! Don’t be afraid to tell the other team you need time! Crunch numbers and take notes! There is no rush. Use a trade calculator if need be. My most important advice when it comes to trading is be mindful and smart. Don’t sell yourself short. It’s ok to decline or send a counter offer. It’s business 101 to reject the first offer. Just a personal opinion of mine.
Look, I’m not the end all be all for fantasy sports. Just a passionate guy who likes discussing all things fantasy. Just so happens I’m very interested in IDP content. Only reason I prefaced things this way is due to all the negative and negligent advice now-a-days on social media. Never a concern of mine seeing how if you’re reading this then you look upon fantasy sports as a fun hobby and don’t take it too serious!
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